
Deborah Blum
Pulitzer Prize-winning science writer has been a professor of
journalism at the University of Wisconsin-Madison since 1997. She is
president of the National Association of Science Writers and a member
of the Committee on Public Understanding of Science and Technology of
the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS). Her
most recent book, Love at Goon Park: Harry Harlow and the Science of
Affection (Perseus), which was reviewed in the March–April 2003 issue,
was a finalist for the 2002 Los Angeles Times Book Prize in the Science
and Technology category and was named a 2002 best book of the year by
Publisher's Weekly, Library Journal, Discover magazine and NPR's
Science Friday. Blum is also the author of Sex on the Brain (Penguin),
which was a 1997 New York Times Notable Book, and The Monkey Wars
(Oxford University Press), which was named Best Sci-Tech Book in 1994
by Library Journal. She is coeditor of a Field Guide for Science
Writers (Oxford University Press, 1997).
Blum worked for a series of newspapers before becoming a science
reporter for the Sacramento Bee, where she won the Pulitzer in 1992 for
a series of articles on ethical issues in primate research; these also
won the 1992 AAAS science writing award and led to Blum's being named
an honorary member of Sigma Xi for her service to science. She
continued with the Bee until moving to the University of Wisconsin. She
has also written for the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los
Angeles Times, Discover, Psychology Today, Life, Health, the Utne
Reader, Mother Jones and discovery.com.
It is
great in a time of "how to" books and general ghost stories to
read a book that
is more biographical in nature. Did you intend this
book for people in
the field of paranormal research or as more of a
historical
work for the general public?
Well, I always aim for a wide audience. But in this case, I suppose, I
wrote the book as a narrative, historical story because I wanted to
reach people already interested in the paranormal but also beyond. I
wanted to frame the book in a way that people who tend to reject the
subject out of hand, might read about it and thinking about it.
With the topic of
your previous books having a true scientific nature,
why did you choose
this subject?
You’re absolutely right that I’m a mainstream science writer, former
president of the National Association of Science Writers, the works.
But I’ve tended, as a journalist, to be fascinated by the intersection
of science and society. I don’t see research as separate from popular
culture: I think they influence each other. And this subject fascinated
me – it raises some wonderful questions: what is reality? How do we
define it? Is science the only way to set limits on what’s real?
With all of the
people involved in the beginnings of "Ghost Hunting"
why did you select
William James?
Partly because he was just so smart; his letters are so much fun to
read. But partly because I liked going against his established
reputation as a stuffy, orthodox Harvard faculty member. I think his
academic biographer have tended to downplay his interest in psychical
research and I think they make him less interesting than he really was.
In part, I wanted to do him justice.
You mention in the
book that you "participated in a slightly unnerving
ESP experiment".
What was your experience and why did you find it
unnerving?
When I was doing research in the archives of the American Society for
Psychical Research, they asked me to participate in an ongoing ESP
experiment. I really said yes out of politeness and a wish to get
along. But when I did the experiment – which involved being shut into a
soundproofed booth and then trying to receive images sent by someone
looking at artwork – I shocked myself by actually seeing the image in
question. It was, in retrospect, a great experience, if unnerving,
because it made me question some long-held but dogmatic beliefs.
In the book it is
mentioned that you have read reports by psychical
researchers that
you could not explain away. With your scientific
background do you
feel that we will ever be able to understand what the
actual cause of
"Ghostly phenomena" is?
I don’t know. Sometimes, to paraphrase William James, it makes sense to
me that we live in a universe designed for mystery. My own thought is
that what we call the “supernatural” may turn out to be merely the
natural realms that we don’t yet understand. Or at least some of it
will. So since I’ve done the book, I’ve attempted to encourage the idea
that this may be worth the time of smart scientists, that they should
take another look.
With the work of
people like William James and others, do you feel that
there is a future
in the field of "Ghost Hunting"?
Sure. There’s always going to be someone who won’t like the answers we
eventually find, but the questions are so interesting, I’d hate to see
us give up on them.
Do you feel that
the strong connection with the spiritual community has
any positive or
negative effects in the continuing study of ghostly
phenomena?
Both. It keeps people determined to hunt for answers. And it allows
critics to say that the spiritually-connected research is biased. It’s
going take a pretty overwhelming result to swamp all of them in the big
picture sense.
After the research
that you did for this book, have your views changed
towards the field
of Ghost hunting or science in general.
I’ve been a science writer for a long time, so I’ve long appreciated
that science doesn’t answer all my questions. Doing the book has made
me more open-minded though. I’ve realized that some of the answers may
lie outside the reach of science, at least as the research community
now defines itself. I’ve been reminded that science itself can be
awfully close-minded. And I’ve learned to value in greater measure what
we do not know.
With all of the
years of psychical research, do you feel that there is
more or less
acceptance in the "real" scientific community?
I think the “real” science community – the people that William James
used to call “the orthodoxers” – decided to dismiss psychical research
a long time ago and hasn’t given it any real attention since. And I
suspect that’s a missed opportunity.
Because of all of
the new media attention on the field of Ghost Hunting
( Ghost Hunters -
Most Haunted - John Edwards - etc..) do you think that
there is more or
less of an acceptance in the general publics’ viewpoint?
I don’t think it required media attention, although that certain
amplified it. I think people have always had inexplicable experiences
and wondered about them. The new attention has, perhaps, made them more
comfortable in sharing those experiences.
What was the most
"credible" piece of evidence that you came across during your research
for the book?
There were some wonderful telepathy experiments and some rather
mind-boggling results from the best 19th century mediums, such as
Leonora Piper. But I was most intrigued by crisis apparitions (often
called death visitants today). They’re so amazingly alike, repetitive.
They just make a compelling pattern. And the statistical analyses done
in the Victorian times with tens of thousands of people – and not
repeated to that extent since – found that such experiences occur at
over 400 times chance. That’s a pretty amazing statistic.
In the book you
state that you do not aspire to having a sixth sense and
are still grounded
in science. After researching this book do you have
any interest in
following up with study of your own because of things
that you have
learned?
My real interest is in trying to write about this subject in the
popular media, reaching an audience beyond those who already know the
subject. So I wrote for a fair number of national publications this
fall, and I’m now writing about the supernatural for some European
publications. It’s what I think of as subversive education.
What are your
other books that have been published?
Ghost Hunters was my fourth. My first was “The Monkey Wars”
(Oxford, 1994), which was about ethical issues in primate research.
Then “Sex on the Brain: The Biological Differences Between Men and
Women” (Viking, 1997) and then “Love at Goon Park: Harry Harlow and the
Science of Affection (Perseus, 2002). I’m also a co-editor of “A Field
Guide for Science Writers” (Oxford, 2005).
Do you have any
new books coming out in the near future?
I’m currently under contract to Penguin Press to do a book on the early
history of forensics – of poison and murder, in particular. Who knows,
that may yet include some good ghost stories! It’s due to the publisher
in 2008.